In this episode we’re excited to introduce two incredibly special and very influential women in our lives that have been there for us from the very beginning, our mums. Given that it was Mother’s Day on the weekend we thought we’d celebrate it by spending some time with both Julie (Laura’s mum) and Wendy (Steph’s mum) and open up about some things we hadn’t fully discussed ever before. Steph learns her mum has one kidney, and Laura discovers why she can’t help laughing at her own jokes.

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ANPT Inspirational Conversations with Dr. Ann VanSant – short version