In this episode, we talk with Rumman Chowdhury, a data scientist and social scientist and the CEO of the tech nonprofit Humane Intelligence, which builds a community of practice around evaluations of AI models. Rumman the United States Science Envoy for Artificial Intelligence.

We ask Rumman about AI and how it intersects with humanity, the role of human rights in AI, what responsible AI means and what is the best way to govern it, given the current geopolitical tensions. Rumman also walks us through her thoughts on AI accountability and her term "moral outsourcing".