In this episode, Angie interviews author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Jurgen Appelo. Jurgen has been named the “Top 100 Leadership Speaker & Top 50 Management Expert” by Inc.com and he has become a key influencer in the workplace happiness movement. During his interview, Jurgen discusses how practicing complexity thinking has influenced his career and management style. He also shares stories and advice on how to “manage the system not the people” with different tools, games, and practices.
