
The New Stack Podcast CloudBees CEO: Why Migration Is a Mirage Costing You Millions
Jan 13, 2026
Anuj Kapur, CEO of CloudBees and an expert in DevOps and software modernization, reveals eye-opening insights from their recent survey on enterprise migrations. He describes the 'migration mirage,' explaining how costly migrations often delay value and demoralize developers. Anuj emphasizes the importance of treating developers with flexibility rather than rigid mandates. He believes that embracing developers' tool preferences and leveraging AI can lead to a new era of software development by 2026, where efficiency reigns supreme.
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Modernization ≠ Migration
- Enterprises routinely equate modernization with migration, which delays real customer value delivery.
- Anuj Kapur calls this pattern the "migration mirage" because migrations cost more, take longer, and yield distant benefits.
Apps Outlast Leadership Changes
- Applications often outlast CIOs, so repeated wholesale replacements ignore system longevity.
- Kapur notes developers resist reworking functioning systems and prefer building new customer-facing features.
Leverage Existing Tooling
- Embrace existing tooling as value drivers instead of forcing rip-and-replace migrations.
- Kapur advises meeting developers where they are and adding guardrails for governance, compliance, and security.
