Charles Upton joins Whitley on Dreamland to discuss his latest book, Alien Disclosure Deception: the Metaphysics of Social Engineering. He is a Sufi Muslim, poet and long-term student of metaphysics, who is not afraid to dive deep into an exploration of the origin of the close encounter phenomena, which has left him with a theory which will resonate deeply with some listeners, and horrify others.

You might take the tack that if we are going to explore the question of what close encounters are, we need to be open to all ideas. In this show, Whitley opens his mind to the uncomfortable and generally rejected possibility that the close encounter experience might actually be the work of something demonic.

There is certainly a dark side to our visitors, so could Charles Upton have the answer as to why this is? Listen to this searching interview to explore his ideas with Whitley!

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