
Sigmund Freud - The Economic Problem of Masochism
Nov 18, 2025
Dive into Freud's intriguing exploration of masochism as an economic puzzle, blending pleasure and pain. The discussion ranges from primal guilt and incest prohibition to the intertwining of desire and social economy. Discover how masochistic impulses relate to consumer behavior and impulse spending, all while grappling with the moral dimensions of this psyche. The hosts also tackle the implications of Freud’s theories on modern issues like climate change and political structures. A thrilling mix of psychology, philosophy, and societal critique awaits!
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Masochism As A Psychic Economic Puzzle
- Freud treats masochism as an economic problem of the psyche where pleasure principle fails to explain seeking pain as pleasure.
- He asks how quantitative tension becomes qualitatively pleasurable, highlighting a gap in metapsychology.
Masochism Creates Strong Therapeutic Resistance
- Freud links masochism to resistance in analysis and secondary gains from illness, making it therapeutically stubborn.
- He sees masochistic desire to be punished as an unconscious benefit that resists change.
Moral Masochism And Founding Guilt
- Freud distinguishes erotogenic, feminine, and moral masochism, privileging moral masochism as most dangerous.
- He links moral masochism to unconscious guilt tied to patricide myths from Totem and Taboo.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Situating Freud's 1924 Essay
01:38 • 3min
Why Masochism Is an Economic Problem
04:57 • 2min
Totem, Taboo, and Primal Guilt
07:22 • 3min
Metapsychology: Topographic, Dynamic, Economic Views
10:42 • 2min
Why Pain Becomes Pleasure: Quantity to Quality
12:29 • 4min
Incest Prohibition as Social Economy
16:26 • 3min
Types of Masochism: Erotogenic, Feminine, Moral
19:25 • 2min
Intensity and the Unconscious's Differential Logic
21:30 • 46sec
Nirvana Principle vs. Drive Dynamics
22:17 • 4min
Masochism and Economic Behavior
26:20 • 3min
Impulse Purchases and Unconscious Guilt
28:58 • 3min
Hoarding, Scapegoating, and Fascism Risk
31:31 • 1min
Sacrifice, Value, and Social Equilibrium
32:35 • 4min
Destruction, Pleasure, and Fusion of Drives
36:19 • 1min
Jouissance Stakes and Gambling with the Future
37:36 • 3min
Oedipus, Monotheism, and the Political Origins of Guilt
40:14 • 4min
Schreber, Feminine Masochism, and Transference
44:08 • 4min
Miraculation Machines and Institutional Denial of Death
48:16 • 3min
Extending the Death Drive to Institutions
51:00 • 2min
Freud Against Biologism and Polymorphous Perversity
53:17 • 4min
Deleuze & Guattari's Body Without Organs Response
57:39 • 1min
Why Freud Still Matters for Theory
58:41 • 2min
Climate Change, Death Drive, and Collective Masochism
01:00:25 • 6min
Masochistic Intensity as Affirmation vs. Self-Destruction
01:06:18 • 1min
Outro
01:07:24 • 1min
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