Political Theory 101
Isocrates, Thucydides, and the Relationship between Rhetoric and Knowledge
Apr 15, 2020
Explore the relationship between rhetoric and knowledge in Greek political thought, particularly the perspectives of Isocrates and Thucydides. Delve into the different philosophical approaches to politics and knowledge between Plato and Aristotle. Discuss the challenges faced by naturalists and empiricists in supporting morality. Examine the role of rhetoric in conveying values and morality. Explore the contrasting views of Thucydides and Plato on the influence of charismatic individuals in society. Plus, learn about the introduction of a Patreon to sustain the podcast.
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- Rhetoric can be used to reveal truth and spread philosophical ideas, but Isocrates' high fees contradict his claims of not being a sophist.
- Thucydides praises Pericles' exceptional talent in using rhetoric to shape public opinion and lead Athens, while criticizing others who are easily swayed by public opinion.
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Isocrates: Rhetoric and the Connection to Truth
Isocrates, a Greek philosopher, emphasizes the importance of rhetoric in Greek political thought. He ran a school of rhetoric and argued that rhetoric is a means to reveal the truth and spread philosophical abstractions. However, there is a tension in his views as he charges high fees for his teachings, contradicting his claims of not being a sophist. Isocrates also highlights the cultural impact of rhetoric, presenting it as a means to induce cities to behave in a way that aligns with truth or knowledge.
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