
Question Everything When Hollywood Tells The Truth - with the directors of Spotlight, The Staircase, Reality, and The Investigation
Dec 25, 2025
Join Tom McCarthy, acclaimed for Spotlight, Antonio Campos, creator of The Staircase, Tina Satter, who adapted Reality Winner's story, and Tobias Lindholm, known for The Investigation. They dive into the complex dance of fact and fiction in filmmaking. Explore the power of verbatim transcripts and how they shape narratives. Discover how meeting real-life figures transformed their approaches and the importance of authenticity in storytelling. They debate the balance between imagination and strict factual constraints while highlighting the emotional impact of dramatized truths.
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Filmmakers Do Investigative Journalism
- These directors treat reporting as investigative labor, digging up documents and interviews before dramatizing.
- They argue dramatization can sometimes get closer to truth than straight documentary work.
A 12‑Year Obsession With The Staircase
- Antonio Campos spent 12 years developing The Staircase and discovered layers the documentary omitted.
- He focused on the messy process and possibilities rather than finding a single final answer.
Use Transcripts As Creative Constraint
- Use verbatim transcripts as a structural constraint to preserve reality's surreality.
- Keep banal lines to maintain authentic pacing and tension in dramatization.



