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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol and Andrew Egger: Lying Is the Price of Admission

May 6, 2024
Bill Kristol and Andrew Egger join Tim Miller to discuss the loyalty required to join Trump's ticket, students' lack of support for protesters, the threat to Biden from chaos perception, and the controversial behavior of Kristi Noem.
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Quick takeaways

  • Governor Kristi Noem fabricated a meeting with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, showcasing a pattern of embellishing stories to enhance her image.
  • Rising US federal debt interest rates could lead to a staggering 1.7 trillion dollar debt payment, highlighting the urgent need for fiscal adjustments.

Deep dives

Misleading Anecdote About Meeting Kim Jong Un

Christy Noem shared a fabricated anecdote in her book about meeting with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, claiming to have stared down 'little tyrants,' referencing her experience as a children's pastor. When questioned about this, Noem backtracked, stating she had met with many world leaders and quickly made edits to remove the false Kim Jong Un encounter from the book.

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