The Pomp Podcast

How To Make Money While Holding Bitcoin | Charlie Hu

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Aug 13, 2025
Charlie Hu, Co-Founder of Bitlayer, dives into the intersection of Bitcoin and DeFi, highlighting how Asian retail investors are reshaping the landscape alongside Western institutions. He discusses the rapid growth of Web3 wallets and the unique challenges of high transaction fees in Bitcoin DeFi. Charlie unveils Bitlayer's innovative projects like the BVM Bridge aimed at scalability and programmability. The conversation also touches on the implications of Bitcoin ETF staking and the importance of user education to navigate Web3 risks.
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Asia Retail Sparked Bitcoin Innovation

  • Asian retail drove early Bitcoin ordinals and NFT activity, creating strong on-chain experimentation.
  • Western institutions followed via ETFs, aligning different user types on the same asset.
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Programmability Unlocks Bitcoin Value

  • DeFi is battle-tested on Ethereum with many proven primitives like AMMs and lending.
  • Bringing programmability to Bitcoin could unlock massive value by using Bitcoin as the primary asset.
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Definition Of True Bitcoin DeFi

  • True Bitcoin DeFi should settle transactions to Bitcoin and use BTC as gas and liquidity.
  • Verification and finality on Bitcoin differentiate true roll-ups from sidechains.
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