Aneesh Chopra is the co-founder and President of NavHealth, and served as the first U.S. Chief Technology Officer under President Obama where, in addition to leading the charge on modernizing citizen engagement and government use of technology, he was responsible for programming aimed to reduce healthcare costs. The guys talk about Aneesh’s experience as the first CTO of the US Government, and how he built a career combining public service, politics, and healthcare technology. Aneesh reflects on how to drive through seemingly insurmountable challenges with persistent optimism.