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171: Machine Learning Pipelines Are Still Data Pipelines with Sandy Ryza of Dagster

Jan 3, 2024
Guest Sandy Ryza, an expert in machine learning pipelines, discusses the role of orchestrators in the lifecycle of data, changes in data ops and MLOps, data cleaning, and the overview of Dagster. They also explore the difference between data assets and tasks in data pipelines, defining lineage and data assets in Dagster, and the benefits of a unified orchestration framework. Additionally, they touch on orchestration in the development phase and the emergence of the analytics engineer role.
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Quick takeaways

  • The boundaries between data engineering, ML engineering, and data science roles are becoming increasingly blurred, allowing individuals to explore different areas and follow their curiosity without needing a complete career change.
  • Orchestrators like Dagster play a crucial role in managing and executing data pipelines for both analytics and ML workloads, providing a flexible execution substrate for experimentation and reliability across the entire development lifecycle.

Deep dives

The Blurring Lines in Data Roles

The boundaries between data engineering, ML engineering, and data science roles are becoming increasingly blurred. In the past, different roles had distinct responsibilities, but now there is more overlap and fluidity. Proficiency in data modeling and infrastructure are key aspects of these roles. The tooling available now allows for collaboration and crossover between Python and SQL, providing flexibility for individuals to explore different areas and follow their curiosity. This blurring of lines is sparking creativity and enabling individuals to pursue their interests without needing a complete career change.

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