Two portions of Chops again this week! We are kind to you. In this episode, as part of our series celebrating Black History Month, Hannah speaks to award-winning black feminist writer Claire Heuchan about her new book What is Race? Who are Racists? Why Does Skin Colour Matter? And Other Big Questions - and manages to squeeze in a couple of questions of her own. And when you're done with this Chops, Mickey awaits with wrestling news. No, really.

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