UX Fika Podcast #11: Be Kaler Pilgrim on Executive Search, Walk And Talk Meetings, And Starting a New Business
In this episode of UX Fika podcast, I reconnect with Be Kaler Pilgrim – founder of Smithfield Search and long-time leader in the digital recruitment world. When we last spoke in 2021, Be was still running Futureheads Recruitment, navigating a pandemic and a shifting job market. Four years later, we catch up on what’s changed, not the least in recruitment.
We talk about why she launched a new business focused on executive search, what lies ahead for design leaders, and hiring over all. We talk about the similarities between the early days of digital and right now with AI, how AI is shaping the skills companies are looking for, and why building relationships still matters more than anything else.
It’s also a conversation about life post 40, motherhood and the constant juggle between work and home life, parenting in this day and age, and about learning to drive later in life. And last but not least, how small rituals – from gardening to wellness drinks – help her stay grounded.
Plus:
☕️ Why wellness drinks is now her go-to fika
⭐ Why give it a go is her advice
What we cover:
01:46 Life Changes and New Beginnings
03:42 Market Trends and Business Insights
07:35 Navigating Job Market Challenges
10:31 Personal Experiences and Parenting Challenges
18:05 Navigating Motherhood and Career Challenges
21:12 Launching a New Business: Smithfield Search
24:42 The Role of AI in Upskilling and Job Security
33:45 Reflections on Age and Personal Growth
40:48 Navigating the Hiring Landscape
43:25 The Role of Freelancers and Consultants
44:49 Career Transitions for Experienced Designers
47:21 The Impact of COVID on Junior Talent
51:17 Advice for Job Seekers in a Competitive Market
53:18 Understanding Executive Search Dynamics
56:00 Building a Personal Brand and Business
57:06 Executive Search
58:18 Embracing Change and Overcoming Challenges
01:01:24 Personal Growth Through Life Experiences
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