The Duran Podcast America First revival and NATO provocations w/ Robert Barnes (Live)
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Sep 23, 2025 In this lively discussion, Robert Barnes, an experienced trial lawyer and commentator, dives into the America First revival and unsettling NATO provocations. He reflects on the cultural impact of Charlie Kirk's tragic murder and the evolution of Kirk's populist, anti-war stance. The conversation segues into shifts in U.S. foreign policy, unpacking the Pentagon's strategic reorientation and debates between globalists and nationalists. Barnes also explores potential designations for groups like Antifa and assesses the Democratic Party's decline, offering insights into America’s turbulent political landscape.
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Pentagon Review Suggests Geopolitical Reset
- The Pentagon's new reviews signal a shift: focus on domestic/regional priorities and avoid kinetic conflict with China.
- Barnes pointed to Colby, Vance and others pushing a nationalist, realist foreign-policy reset.
Avoid Sanctions That Harm The US Economy
- Barnes advised the US should secure energy and economic levers to avoid sanctions-driven price shocks.
- He recommended pursuing trade and investment deals with non-European partners as exit ramps.
Globalist Elite Versus Nationalist Revival
- Barnes defined the core contest as globalists versus nationalists, not classic empires.
- He argued globalists treat nations as assets for elites, explaining why unpopular European leaders persist.