140: Kevin Kelly | Wisdom, Tim Ferriss & Serendipity
Jun 6, 2023
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Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired magazine and author of '1000 true fans', discusses serendipity in his life, the impact of Tim Ferriss, the importance of communication, and reacts to a Norm Macdonald quote. Topics include travel experiences, being famous in China, favorite aphorism, and reflections on mortality.
Serendipity can play a significant role in shaping one's journey, but individuals still have control over many aspects of their lives and can make a difference in the areas they choose to improve.
Effective communication requires empathy, clarity, and honesty to establish authenticity and a genuine connection with the audience.
Deep dives
The Role of Serendipity in Life
Kevin Kelly reflects on the role of serendipity in his life and emphasizes the impact it has on individual paths. He acknowledges how luck and chance can play a significant role in shaping one's journey, but also highlights the importance of personal choices and improvements. He emphasizes that while serendipity is influential, individuals still have control over many aspects of their lives and can make a difference in the areas they choose to improve.
The Power of Communication
Kevin Kelly discusses the significance of effective communication and highlights two key elements: empathy and clarity. He notes that the best communicators possess the ability to empathize with their audience, putting themselves in their shoes and understanding their perspectives. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of clarity in conveying ideas, ensuring that the message is transparent and easily understood. Honesty in communication is another vital aspect, as it establishes authenticity and a genuine connection with the audience.
Living with a Sense of Urgency
Kevin Kelly shares his perspective on the passage of time and the need to live with a sense of urgency. He explains that even as a young person, he was aware of his mortality, which fueled his desire to make the most of each day. He encourages individuals to celebrate every moment and to approach each day as if it could be their last. By doing so, they can ensure that they are living an authentic and fulfilling life.
Lessons from Elite Communicators
Kevin Kelly reflects on the qualities of elite communicators, such as Barack Obama, Adam Savage, Malcolm Gladwell, and Richard Dawkins. He mentions that empathy and clarity are essential attributes, as elite communicators have a deep understanding of their audience and strive to connect with them on a personal level. Additionally, he notes the importance of avoiding repetition and constantly evolving one's ideas to maintain freshness and engagement with the audience.
He’s an eclectic fella with a broad array of experiences and interests, but most notably, he is the co-founder of Wired magazine, an og futurist, the photographer behind vanishing Asia, author of many many books… but most importantly to me, he wrote of one of the most viral blog posts of all time, ‘1000 true fans’.
Kevin Kelly has done at this stage probably 100’s of podcasts, I feel like I’ve listened to most of them, but while I cannot confirm this to be 100% true, I think this podcast can exist as evergreen material Kevin has not spoken publicly about before.
We go top to bottom the role of serendipity in Kevins life. I ask him point blank what Tim Ferriss has done for him. Kevin opens up and then digs deep on the importance of communication and I even get Kevin to react to a Norm Macdonald quote at the end.
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00:00 – Introduction
01:37 – Serendipity In Kevins Life & Travel Experiences
24:52 – ‘Be A Good Ancestor’ – Kevin Kelly
28:15 – What’s It Like Being Famous In China?
34:02 – What Has Tim Ferriss Done For You?
42:32 – Kevins Favourite Aphorism From The Book
46:32 – Kevins Advice On Elite Communication + Behind The Scenes On The Podcast Tour
57:22 – Kevin Reacting To A Norm Macdonald Quote + Reflecting On Mortality