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From devil horns to deep listening — Maxine Beneba Clark, Debra Dank, Damon Young on the power of communication

Aug 20, 2025
Join dynamic guests Debra Dank, a Gudanji, Wakaja, Kalkadoon woman and award-winning author, Maxine Beneba Clark, a multi-talented Afro-Caribbean writer, and Damon Young, an acclaimed philosopher and author, as they explore the art of communication. They discuss how poetry and gestures can foster connections and identity, the influence of AI on creativity, and the importance of listening and understanding in diverse settings. Their insights remind us that effective communication can unite us across cultures and generations.
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ANECDOTE

Silly Poems As Conversation Starters

  • Maxine Beneba Clarke wrote a silly poem after a child told her they 'hate poetry' and wanted rude, funny lines.
  • She uses playful poems as conversation starters to reach kids and open unexpected discussions.
INSIGHT

Poetry's Condensing Power

  • Poetry condenses language and emotion, letting writers handle complex subjects in a few lines.
  • Readers approach poetry ready to be moved, which allows unexpected emotional impact.
ANECDOTE

Devil Horns' Unexpected Origin

  • Damon Young traces the "devil horns" at heavy metal gigs to James Dio borrowing his Italian grandmother's anti-evil-eye gesture.
  • Dio repurposed it as a collective, defiant symbol for heavy metal rather than satanic meaning.
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