Departures with Robert Amsterdam

Identities, Rivalries, and Schisms in the modern Middle East

Feb 4, 2025
Barnaby Rogerson, a British author and television presenter, dives deep into the complexities of the Middle East, discussing his book on the Shia-Sunni divide. He illustrates how historical narratives shape modern identities, revealing the colorful stories behind these identities. Rogerson highlights the geopolitical chess game, focusing on Turkey’s influence and the U.S.-Israel relationship. He also examines Iran's shifting role amid sanctions and domestic challenges and reflects on the revolutionaries of 1979 and their lasting impact on the region.
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INSIGHT

Middle Eastern Complexity

  • The Middle East's complexity is often oversimplified as just a Shia-Sunni conflict.
  • Three major ethnicities (Arab, Turkish, and Iranian) add to the complexity.
INSIGHT

Shia vs. Sunni Outlook

  • Shia and Sunni share core beliefs but differ in their outlooks.
  • Shias possess a hopeful zeal for the future, while Sunnis are more pragmatic.
ANECDOTE

Personal Connection to Religious Divide

  • Barnaby Rogerson's family background (Catholic father, Protestant mother) helped him understand the Middle East.
  • He appreciates both Shia and Sunni traditions.
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