Matias De Stefano and Robert Grant discuss ancient civilizations, the Philosopher's Stone, twin flames, Divine Play, climate change, diversity of opinions, perception, personal responsibility, unity, and symbolism of Arthurian legends.
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Quick takeaways
Diverse perspectives and wisdom contribute to a deeper understanding of the world.
Reality is made up of repeating patterns that create echoes of past events.
Inner freedom is more valuable than external control or prediction.
Chaos and order are interconnected, contributing to a larger harmonious system.
Finding balance and unity through accepting both polarities leads to harmony and growth.
Deep dives
The Power of Connections and Overlapping Knowledge
The podcast episode discusses the excitement about bringing together two unique individuals, Robert Edward Grant and Matthias de Stefano, who have distinct sets of knowledge and experiences. These individuals have perspectives that overlap and complement each other. The conversation highlights the importance of diverse wisdom and perspectives in gaining a deeper understanding of the world.
The Repeating Patterns of Waves and Symphony
The podcast explores the idea that reality is made up of repeating patterns, similar to waves and symphonies. It explains how these waves and frequencies, which are connected to time, create patterns in the universe. The discussion emphasizes that while history may not repeat in the exact same way, there are echoes or echoes of past events that reoccur in different synphonies. The current times are viewed as an echo of past conflicts, but with different frequencies and structures.
The Illusion of Control and the Importance of Inner Freedom
The conversation delves into the illusion of control and the importance of inner freedom. It suggests that when individuals focus on external circumstances and try to anticipate or control future events, they can inadvertently create a sense of being controlled by external forces. Instead, the podcast emphasizes the value of inner freedom, encouraging individuals to focus on finding inner harmony and freedom of thought, rather than becoming fixated on external predictions or attempts to control the future.
The Paradox of Chaos and Order
The podcast discusses the paradoxical relationship between chaos and order. While chaos is often seen as unpredictable and disordered, the conversation highlights how chaos can actually contribute to a larger order and complexity in the world. It explores how chaos and order are intertwined, using examples such as the perfect functioning of a human body, where complex and seemingly chaotic actions of cells contribute to an overall harmonious system. The discussion emphasizes the importance of embracing both chaos and order, and recognizing the interconnectedness of all things.
The Power of Balance and Unity
The podcast episode explores the concept of balance and unity through the symbol of the Holy Trinity and the third eye. It emphasizes the importance of finding a third option to create harmony between opposing sides, rather than forcing one side to conform to the other. The episode suggests that unity can only be achieved through the acceptance and balance of both polarities. The story of Arthur and Merlin is used as an example of finding the light and spark within, even in times of conflict and darkness. The podcast also discusses the significance of eclipses as portals to uncover and face the subconscious shadows within ourselves.
The Divine Play
The episode delves into the idea that life is a divine play or Lila. It highlights the importance of recognizing that existence is a game with patterns and connections that may not be immediately visible. The hosts discuss the significance of recognizing the interconnectedness of events and the intention behind them. They suggest that understanding life as a game allows for a shift in perspective and the ability to navigate through challenges and conflicts. The episode also touches on vulnerability and the need to embrace and learn from moments of vulnerability.
The Symbolism of the Eclipse
The podcast delves into the symbolism of eclipses and their potential impact on personal and collective transformation. The hosts challenge traditional views that portray eclipses as negative events and instead propose that eclipses act as needles of energy that bring hidden aspects of the subconscious to the surface. They encourage listeners to face their own shadows and find clarity and balance within themselves. The discussion also highlights the upcoming eclipse and its alignment with certain states in the United States, suggesting that it signifies a need for change and finding balance.
Exploring Personal Experiences
The hosts share personal experiences during past eclipses and reflect on the profound effects these celestial events can have on individuals. One host recounts a transformative experience during an eclipse in Italy that led to a catharsis and a deeper understanding of vulnerability. Another host shares a powerful experience during an eclipse in South Korea and the subsequent reflections on shame and blame. The episode emphasizes the importance of introspection and personal growth during eclipse periods.
The Symbolism of the Sword and the Round Table
The podcast explores the symbolism of the sword and the round table, drawing connections to various mythologies and stories. The hosts discuss how the sword represents empowerment and direction, and the round table signifies equality and unity. They reference the Arthurian legends and the concept of Camelot as an aspirational ideal. They also mention the importance of listening to disparate voices and harmonizing different perspectives. The hosts explore the theme of choosing love over picking sides and how this can lead to a more beautiful world. The podcast delves into the idea that these symbols hold meaning across cultures and highlight the importance of aligning oneself with the North Pole or the guiding principle in one's own life.
The Cycle of Time and the Return to Love
The podcast delves into the idea of time cycling on itself and the concept of the hero's journey. The hosts discuss how time is retrocausal, with the future and past entangled, and how understanding this can lead to transcending duality. They mention the importance of following love instead of choosing one side or another. The hosts draw connections to Greek mythology, highlighting the story of Hercules and his journey of redemption. They also discuss the symbolism of the Celtic cross and its representation of the return to knowledge of one's destiny. The podcast touches on the interpretation of ancient symbols found in walls, such as in the Great Pyramid, and how they hold relevance for our present time. They conclude by emphasizing the significance of understanding the cycle of time and choosing love in the face of tragedy and darkness.
What would it be like if Leonardo Da Vinci got to talk with someone who remembered the whole sacred history of the cosmos?
This.
Always looking for clues and patterns to help decipher the Mystery, polymath Robert Edward Grant joins the human memory bank Matias De Stefano who is best known as someone who remembers all of his past lives and everything that happened in between.
We have clues that have been left for us from ancient civilizations about how to navigate these wartorn waters, in a different way through remembering who we are and learn from the mistakes made by ancient advanced civilizations. If we are able to restore our own wholeness by decoding these clues, and understanding the matrix, we will be able to follow initiatic paths that can serve humanity on an individual and collective level.
We also decode and retranslate the myth of the Philosopher’s Stone, one of the most mysterious and important guiding stories of our time. This drives us into discussions about Arthurian legend, twin flames, our original trauma, and the importance of Divine Play.
I hope you all enjoy this once in a lifetime special conversation and check out more of both Matias & Robert’s work at www.matiasdestefano.org and www.robertedwardgrant.com.
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