MSP spend a lot of time and energy trying to align with standards from one of the many frameworks that are out there to improve their cybersecurity posture. Whether you do it to meet regulatory requirements, or are just looking to improve your business operations, how do you know when you are failing or succeeding? I sit down with Jim Harryman of Kinetic Technology Group to discuss how evidence comes into play. Policy Process and People are key to collecting that appropriate evidence and Jim and I are going to talk through how to make it part of your cultural habits.