The Jordan Harbinger Show

1249: Rehab and Recovery | Skeptical Sunday

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Nov 30, 2025
In this engaging conversation, Nick Pell, a writer and researcher focused on addiction treatment, uncovers the myths surrounding the $42 billion rehab industry. He critiques the outdated Minnesota Model and discusses how most people naturally recover without formal treatment. Pell highlights the conflicts of interest in rehab practices, such as the damaging 'Florida Shuffle.' He also introduces alternative recovery methods like SMART Recovery and encourages listeners to prioritize pragmatic goals for successful outcomes.
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ANECDOTE

Two High-School Users, Two Outcomes

  • Nick Pell described two high-school friends who used LSD daily; one ended up in trouble while the other became a well-adjusted carpenter who smokes weed.
  • The contrast shows drug use doesn't uniformly predict life outcomes.
INSIGHT

Why 12-Step Became Dominant

  • 12-step programs scale because they're free, widely available, and court-integrated, which entrenches them beyond pure effectiveness.
  • Their dominance often reflects logistical convenience and stigma-reduction motives rather than definitive scientific superiority.
INSIGHT

Origins Of The Abstinence Model

  • The Minnesota model (abstinence/12-step) frames addiction as a lifelong disease and demands total abstinence from all intoxicants.
  • That framing shaped public belief despite limited empirical grounding and institutional convenience for scaling treatment.
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