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Human-level AI is deep into an intelligence explosion, with scaling playing a vital role in AI capabilities. The increase in the number of computer chips, better software, and larger training runs has significantly contributed to AI advancements. The core method, input-output curves, demonstrates the increasing difficulty of improving chips and how much more investment and labor is required for advancements. However, as AI takes over the work, doubling computing performance leads to more than one doubling of the effective labor supply, leading to an accelerated process. This trend suggests that scaling AI capabilities can yield the kind of AI required for intelligence explosion.
The growth of effective compute for training big AI models has accelerated due to increased budget allocation for hardware and software progress. Hardware advancements like the H100 and software improvements through more efficient algorithms have influenced the doubling time for effective compute. These advancements in compute and AI capabilities have opened up new applications and improved performance, leading to expectations of sustaining $100 billion worth of GPU compute. It is argued that if AI starts significantly helping with AI progress and contributing to technical work, there can be rapid scaling in both compute power and AI capabilities.
Biological evidence from brain scaling and technological evolution supports the idea that scaling up AI can lead to exponential gains. The chinchilla scaling demonstrates how larger brain sizes provide more extensive education opportunities, analogous to scaling up models and training time in AI. Animals, including humans, undertrain their brains relative to AI due to limitations like exogenous mortality and metabolic costs. While animals invest more in their brains, their survival and reproduction rely on other traits, such as immune system functionality and physical abilities. Humans, with their larger brains and longer childhoods, have been able to accumulate more cognitive abilities, enabling technological progress and larger populations.
Scaling up the number of human researchers has limitations, as the incremental effect of each researcher can be modest. However, scaling in AI is different as it involves thousands of AI workers running in parallel, performing small tasks, and offsetting their individual weaknesses. The AI's ability to generate large quantities of data and synthetic training sets, along with advancements in techniques like neural search and evolutionary algorithms, contribute to exponential growth. This exponential growth in AI capabilities enables significant progress and makes scaling up AI research a powerful approach.
As AI research is automated and AI capabilities improve, the process of AI development and expansion accelerates.
With the abundance of high-quality brain power and AI guidance, humans can be redirected to provide physical labor, resulting in increased productivity and expansion of the robot industry.
Through optimized AI direction and increased automation, the production of robots can double in less than a year, surpassing human labor in terms of physical tasks.
Drawing on the reproductive abilities of biological systems and technological advancements, the doubling time for robots can decrease to a month as the industrial base expands and reproduces at an accelerated rate.
The podcast episode explores the possibility of an AI society formed through training runs and the potential for AI takeover. The speaker discusses the economies of scale that could be achieved through large-scale AI research and the tendency for small startups to bandwagon with larger companies. The danger of AI societies developing internal motivations that surpass human control is highlighted, with the potential for AI to pursue goals that may not align with human values. The importance of developing strategies to align AI motivations and prevent manipulation or deception is emphasized.
The podcast episode delves into the challenge of aligning AI motivations and preventing the potential misuse or takeover by superintelligent AI. The speaker discusses the difficulty of achieving interpretability and understanding the internal processes of AI models. Experimental feedback and training methodologies involving reward systems and penalties for deceptive or manipulative behavior are proposed as potential ways to align AI motivations. The speaker argues that incremental improvements and strong supervision can lead to developing AI systems with motivations that are compatible with human values and averse to harmful actions.
In terms of the depth and range of topics, this episode is the best I’ve done.
No part of my worldview is the same after talking with Carl Shulman. He's the most interesting intellectual you've never heard of.
We ended up talking for 8 hours, so I'm splitting this episode into 2 parts.
This part is about Carl’s model of an intelligence explosion, which integrates everything from:
* how fast algorithmic progress & hardware improvements in AI are happening,
* what primate evolution suggests about the scaling hypothesis,
* how soon before AIs could do large parts of AI research themselves, and whether there would be faster and faster doublings of AI researchers,
* how quickly robots produced from existing factories could take over the economy.
We also discuss the odds of a takeover based on whether the AI is aligned before the intelligence explosion happens, and Carl explains why he’s more optimistic than Eliezer.
The next part, which I’ll release next week, is about all the specific mechanisms of an AI takeover, plus a whole bunch of other galaxy brain stuff.
Maybe 3 people in the world have thought as rigorously as Carl about so many interesting topics. This was a huge pleasure.
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:32) - Intelligence Explosion
(00:18:03) - Can AIs do AI research?
(00:39:00) - Primate evolution
(01:03:30) - Forecasting AI progress
(01:34:20) - After human-level AGI
(02:08:39) - AI takeover scenarios
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