In this conversation, Jason connects with Channock Banet, whose union-with-God theology moves him beyond performance, separation, and Sunday-centric scorekeeping. Shaped by mentors like Jamie Englehart—and the humorous “Shanncock Bante” awakening from his book—Channock reframed church around one question: “Are we loving people well?” That shift birthed ReLife, a nonprofit that renovates homes, houses single parents at affordable rates, mentors them, then gifts back two years of rent so they can buy the home at cost. Family, hoops, and a legendary cauliflower taco round out a through line of living in the flow of love that transforms communities.

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