In this episode, Drew Manning dives into an engaging conversation with Paul Austin, founder of The Third Wave and author of Mastering Microdosing. They explore the transformative power of psychedelics, covering how they’re reshaping mental health, personal development, and conscious fitness. Paul shares his journey from a conservative Midwest upbringing to discovering psychedelics and dedicating himself to educating others on their safe, intentional use. They discuss microdosing benefits, safety, overcoming stigma, and Drew’s conscious fitness retreats, where breathwork and mindfulness offer psychedelic-like experiences. Join Drew and Paul for insights on the mindful use of psychedelics and their impact on self-awareness, mental resilience, and emotional growth.

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SHOW HIGHLIGHTS:

• (0:10) - Introduction

Drew welcomes listeners, discussing recent updates and his transition to conscious fitness retreats.

• (0:41) - Podcasting Return

Drew addresses his break from podcasting, due to his increased focus on conscious fitness retreats.

• (1:15) - Psychedelics as Medicine

Drew opens up about how psychedelics have profoundly helped him and close loved ones.

• (1:20) - Guest Introduction: Paul Austin

Paul Austin, founder of The Third Wave, shares his mission of educating people on safe, intentional use of psychedelics and microdosing.

• (4:47) - Paul’s Journey into Psychedelics

Paul describes his unconventional start with psychedelics at age 19, and the personal revelations that shaped his journey.

• (7:17) - The Third Wave

Paul explains founding The Third Wave in 2015 as a platform to provide accurate information and guidance on psychedelics.

• (9:08) - Family Reactions to Psychedelics

Paul discusses how his family’s perspective shifted, especially his dad, who eventually tried microdosing.

• (13:00) - Safe and Intentional Use of Psychedelics

The importance of intention, proper dosage, and context in using psychedelics to ensure beneficial experiences.

• (18:03) - Third Wave’s Training for Practitioners

Paul highlights the need for structure, training, and guidance in the use of psychedelics, and Third Wave’s programs for professionals.

• (24:40) - Microdosing Explained

How microdosing differs from high doses, recommended frequency, and how it can improve mood, energy, and focus.

• (29:02) - Choosing the Right Substance

Paul explains how psilocybin and LSD affect the body differently and which might be better depending on the individual’s goals.

• (36:30) - Overcoming the Fear of Psychedelics

Drew and Paul discuss techniques for reducing anxiety around trying psychedelics, including microdosing and breathwork.

• (41:11) - Drew’s Conscious Fitness Retreats

Drew talks about his retreats, the focus on healing without psychedelics, and how breathwork achieves a similar experience.

• (48:00) - The Future of Psychedelics

Paul’s outlook on legalization, therapeutic applications, and potential for widespread mental health benefits in the next decade.

• (54:00) - Psychedelics, Self-Worth, and Behavior

How psychedelics promote healthier lifestyle choices and may aid in weight loss by fostering self-awareness and self-respect.

• (55:21) - Final Thoughts and Resources

Paul shares final advice on educating oneself about psychedelics, upcoming programs, and resources at Third Wave.

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