In this episode of the Reducing Crime podcast, host Jerry Ratcliffe interviews Chris Magnus, the police chief for Tucson, Arizona. Magnus discusses the innovative approaches his department is taking to address social problems affecting the city, such as homelessness and substance abuse. He emphasizes the need for a shift away from a reflexive arrest approach and towards more evidence-based and tailored solutions. Magnus also highlights the importance of building partnerships with other service providers and engaging with the community to create meaningful change. He acknowledges the challenges of navigating politics and the need for more time to implement effective strategies. Overall, Magnus advocates for a more nuanced and collaborative approach to policing.