In this engaging discussion, Su Lin Wong, a China correspondent for The Economist, sheds light on the harsh sentencing of Hong Kong's pro-democracy activists like Jimmy Lai and Martin Lee. The podcast examines the implications for dissent and the future of democracy in the region. Meanwhile, Claire Oliver-Williams, a science writer, explores the ethical dilemmas surrounding groundbreaking human-monkey chimeras, highlighting their potential in regenerative medicine and the societal concerns they raise. A thought-provoking blend of politics and science!