Given the numerous times mega-church Elevation (Charlotte, NC) has made headlines in recent years, this church and its gifted celebrity pastor, Steven Furtick, has often been a topic of conversation on this podcast. On this episode, we brought on a former super-volunteer and intern from the church and discussed some of the oddities behind the scenes there. Matt is also worried about the current state of our country and world, Toby made a video to his future hit worship song (Hillsong, beware), and a Packer fan takes his wife’s last name because her last name is “Packer.”
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