The Bulwark Podcast

Anne Applebaum and Jacob Frey: Using Lies to Justify Violence

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Jan 9, 2026
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey discusses ICE's intimidating presence in the city, highlighting their failed mission and subsequent community fears. He criticizes the federal government's rhetoric surrounding a recent shooting, urging for accountability. Anne Applebaum offers insights on the militarization of federal agencies and the broader implications of intimidation tactics on civic life. She also critiques Trump's intervention in Venezuela and its potential consequences, linking political rhetoric to global unrest.
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Aimless Paramilitary Presence

  • Jacob Frey argues ICE agents patrol Minneapolis without a clear legal mission and end up terrorizing residents.
  • He suggests the operation aimed to find Somali deportees but found citizens, making the deployments unconstitutional and counterproductive.
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Duty To Aid After Use Of Force

  • Jacob Frey says basic duty of officers is to aid the injured, even if they caused the harm.
  • He views the agents' refusal to allow medical help as deeply appalling and inconsistent with law enforcement duties.
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Qualified, Not Absolute, Immunity

  • Jacob Frey rejects claims of absolute immunity for the ICE agent and says they have only qualified immunity.
  • He says current actions contradict qualifications because killing and failing to deescalate aren't protected.
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