

Move, Think, Rest: The Anti-Hustle Framework That's Replacing Productivity Culture
Friends, I’m thrilled to share that the podcast is back for Season 6 — and we’re kicking things off with a powerhouse conversation that I cannot wait for you to hear.
This season is about sharpening our communication edge, nourishing our creativity, and finding new ways to thrive in a world that seems busier (and noisier) than ever. And who better to launch with than Natalie Nixon?
🎙️ Episode 134: Move, Think, Rest: The Anti-Hustle Framework That's Replacing Productivity CultureMy guest today is Natalie Nixon, PhD — creativity strategist, president of Figure 8 Thinking, and one of the most generous, provocative thinkers I know. Natalie has spent her career helping leaders and organizations unlock creativity as a strategic advantage. She’s the author of The Creativity Leap and her brand-new book Move. Think. Rest.:Redefining Productivity & Our Relationship with Time, which reframes how we think about productivity, burnout, and flourishing.
In our conversation, we dive into:
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Why “real rest” is a radical act — and why most of us have never actually witnessed it.
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How daydreaming and procrastination aren’t signs of laziness but tools for sharper thinking.
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What Taylorism (the stopwatch-on-the-factory-floor era) has to do with our guilt around taking breaks.
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The Motor Framework — Natalie’s elegant approach to work rooted in move, think, rest.
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The difference between Chronos time (clock time) and Kairos time (time outside of time — the magic moments).
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Why intuition is not woo-woo, but actually grounded in neuroscience and the vagus nerve.
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Practical rituals to bring creativity back into your workflow: from Bill Gates’ “think weeks” to gamifying daydreaming.
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How rethinking meetings can transform culture (Zapier’s no-meeting week, question-storming, the law of two feet).
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The power of collective effervescence — how joy with others fuels our best work.
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Shine on, my friend. We need your light!