In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Yonatan Zunger, CVP of AI Safety and Security at Microsoft. The conversation delves into the critical role of the AI Red Team, which focuses on identifying vulnerabilities in AI systems. Yonatan emphasizes the importance of ensuring the safety of Microsoft’s AI products and the innovative methods the team employs to simulate potential threats, including how they assess risk and develop effective responses. This engaging dialogue offers insights into the intersection of technology, security, and human behavior in the evolving landscape of AI.  

In this episode you’ll learn:      

• Why securing AI systems requires understanding their unique psychology 
• The importance of training and technical mitigations to enhance AI safety 
• How financial incentives drive performance improvements in AI systems 

Some questions we ask:     

• How does Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) work? 
• What are the potential risks with data access and permissions in AI systems? 
• Should users tell language models that accuracy affects their rewards to improve responses? 

Resources:  

View Yonatan Zunger on LinkedIn  

View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn  

Related Microsoft Podcasts:                   

• Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson 
• The BlueHat Podcast 
• Uncovering Hidden Risks     

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