S1E16: The Crusades is an example of what happens when a group makes exclusionary claims on Palestine.

Our Holy Land and only Our Holy Land!

What does this mean to you?

My guest scholar explained to me that the Crusades is an example of what happens when outsiders come in and make exclusionary claims on Palestine.

As she told me, the history of the Crusades is not forgotten by the People of Palestine, because they draw sharp contrasts between Christian Europeans' conquest of Jerusalem in 1099, in which Muslims and Jews were slaughtered and excluded, to the Muslim Arab re-conquest of Jerusalem in 1187, in which there was no bloodbath and Jews were invited back.

She also shares a personal story with me, about her Palestinian roots and how her parents fled their homes in Palestine.

We talk about why there is so little scholarship of Palestine's history in the United States.

And I ask her, is there such a thing as Jewish Palestinians?

🚩About My Guest:

⁠⁠⁠Dr. Maha Nassar⁠ is a professor of Middle East History and Islamic Studies at the School of Middle Eastern and North African Studies of the University of Arizona.

She is a cultural and intellectual historian of the twentieth-century Arab world, with a focus on Palestinian history. Her research on intellectual constructs of social, political and cultural identities seeks to trace the circulation of political vocabularies that construct as well as contest nationalist narratives.

She is the author of Brothers Apart: Palestinian Citizens of Israel and the Arab World. And her forthcoming book, which we talk about in this episode, is titled Palestine’s People.

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Santur: Peyman Heydarian playing on the Santur some Iranian music. Recorded with a Sony PCM-D50 at the School of Oriental and African Studies of London on April 7th 2011.

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