

W-2s Are Dying. Entrepreneurs Are Winning | Lindsey Bell on What’s Next
]🎙 Lindsey Bell on Career Pivots, Purpose, and the Future of Work
In this special “O Snap” episode of Just Press Record, Matt Zeigler sits down with Lindsey Bell to explore the messy, magical in-between of career pivots and how the future of work is being shaped by a new wave of entrepreneurs. Using a powerful clip from Hal Hershfield and Julia Carrion as a jumping-off point, they dive into the importance of adaptability, the test-and-learn mindset, and why mission and work are becoming inseparable in today’s labor market.
🔑 Topics Covered:
The real drivers of career change: desperation vs. discontent
Why career pivots are messy but transformative
How testing and learning builds adaptability and resilience
The explosion of entrepreneurialism among skilled workers
Why the W-2 job may be fading in relevance
How identity and purpose shape the future of work
The economic implications of a more fragmented, resilient workforce
The growing importance of community in a decentralized work world
Why the “1,000 true fans” model resonates in 2025
Lessons from Lindsey’s TED Talk on career ownership
⏱ Timestamps:
00:00 – Why Matt had to show Lindsey the Hal & Julia clip
01:00 – The messy truth behind pivots and personal transformation
04:11 – What Lindsey’s been up to since her last appearance
05:10 – The Hal Hershfield & Julia Carrion clip
07:14 – First reactions: the beauty and pain of career pivots
09:00 – Why real change is triggered by pressure or exhaustion
11:00 – Test and learn: the new model of career development
12:00 – A seismic shift toward entrepreneurialism
14:50 – The rise of skilled, mid-career entrepreneurs
16:08 – Why traditional jobs are becoming less reliable
18:34 – It's never been easier to build something new
20:00 – Are we chasing "enough" instead of "more"?
21:03 – Fragmentation as a defining economic force
23:21 – Finding purpose and identity in the brands and communities we choose
24:38 – The future of work is deeply personal and communal
26:15 – Where to find Lindsey Bell and her TED Talk
📌 Watch Lindsey’s TED Talk: "How to Take Ownership of Your Career"
📬 Connect with Lindsey on LinkedIn: [Insert Link]
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