Apple Vision Pro is the most exciting new Apple device and/or it's the least useful. Host Wes Hilliard and guest Mike Wuerthele have both had the Apple Vision Pro since the day it was released yet they have dramatically different perspectives. See who you agree with, see who convinces the other, while we also touch on all the Apple News of the week.

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(00:00) - Intro
(00:34) - Apple Vision Pro
(08:32) - VR not AR
(12:48) - Social norms
(19:28) - Apple couldn't release AVP sooner
(20:22) - Opposing views
(26:38) - Killer app
(31:30) - Eco system
(41:14) - Comfort
(42:58) - Tim Cook and AI
(50:26) - Deep Fakes on X

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