

The Futurists with Pablos Holman — Next Gen Energy
Feb 21, 2025
Pablos Holman, a futurist and venture capitalist at Deep Future, discusses pressing energy challenges and the innovative solutions on the horizon. He highlights the stark disparity in energy consumption and the urgent need for sustainable practices. The conversation ventures into China’s rapid adoption of electric vehicles and groundbreaking advancements in nuclear technology. Holman also explores the futuristic idea of transmitting solar energy from space to Earth and the role of AI in resource efficiency, envisioning a cleaner and more sustainable future.
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Americans as Energy Unconstrained
- Average Americans consume energy at nine times the rate of a typical Earthling.
- This makes Americans the closest example we have of unconstrained humans in terms of energy use.
Rising Eco-refugees and Food Scarcity
- By 2050, eco-refugees could number 1.2 to 1.6 billion due to climate change.
- Food scarcity is the central challenge causing displacement in many vulnerable regions.
Adaptation Versus Displacement Reality
- Displacement from natural disasters like California wildfires affects tens of thousands, not billions.
- Long-term adaptation involves changing crops and lifestyles to new climate realities rather than abandoning regions outright.