Religion, Race, and Restrooms in North Carolina with Anthony Smith
May 23, 2016
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In this lively discussion, guests Anthony Smith, a progressive minister from Mission House in North Carolina, and Ben Boswell, a senior minister and Duke Divinity grad, dive into race, faith, and the complexities of American identity. They tackle the legacy of lynching in the community and explore cultural shifts surrounding inclusivity. Personal anecdotes blend humor with serious reflections on navigating faith in today's world, including challenges of privilege and oppression. Their dynamic conversations invite listeners to engage deeply with these pressing societal issues.
The podcast discusses the importance of community and fellowship in faith as showcased by the upcoming Wild Goose Festival in North Carolina.
Anthony emphasizes the prophetic role of faith leaders in advocating for justice and addressing systemic oppression faced by marginalized communities.
The conversation highlights the necessity for predominantly white faith communities to engage in self-examination regarding privilege and work towards mutual liberation.
The participants critique traditional views of atonement, advocating for a nuanced understanding of Jesus as a catalyst for contemporary social change.
Deep dives
Engagement with Friends
The episode features a lively conversation between Trip and his friends Anthony Smith and Ben Boswell, highlighting their shared experiences and theological discussions. Both friends, previously encountered in Trip's earlier podcast episodes, provide insights into their journeys in ministry and activism. The live recording takes place at Birdsong Brewery in Charlotte, showcasing a relaxed atmosphere where deep theological topics unravel alongside casual interactions. The camaraderie among the trio emphasizes the value of friendships rooted in faith and the exchange of ideas.
Wild Goose Festival
The Wild Goose Festival is highlighted as an upcoming event that promises a convergence of art, spirituality, and social justice activism in the scenic mountains of North Carolina. Attendees can expect engaging discussions, creative expressions, and networking opportunities with like-minded individuals. A discount code is mentioned for those interested in attending, encouraging listeners to embrace the festival spirit. The festival serves as a reminder of the importance of community and fellowship in faith contexts.
Cultural Context and Faith
The discussion transitions to the broader cultural dynamics in North Carolina, where there is a perceived fear among the dominant culture regarding changing demographics and social justice movements. This fear is linked to a re-examination of faith and community engagement, prompting a call for solidarity and action among advocates of justice. Trip and Anthony explore how faith communities can address these fears and take a proactive, life-giving approach to contemporary issues. They share insights into movements like the Moral Monday Movement, emphasizing the role of faith in advocating for justice.
Experiencing Disruption in Ministry
Anthony reflects on the prophetic role that faith leaders can play during times of social upheaval, connecting the narrative of Jesus to the challenges faced by marginalized communities today. He stresses the importance of acknowledging systemic oppression while recognizing the agency within those affected. By discussing the historical context of Jesus' ministry, Anthony emphasizes a need for churches to become spaces of liberation rather than oppression. This prompts a broader conversation about how faith can serve as a catalyst for transformation in society.
Privilege and Responsibility
The conversation shifts to the topic of privilege and the responsibilities that come with it, particularly in predominantly white faith communities. Trip and Anthony discuss the need for self-examination among those benefiting from privilege, urging them to recognize the disparities in their communities. They explore the importance of mutual liberation, where both individuals and communities work towards healing and justice together. This shared insight points towards a necessary dialogue on race and privilege within the context of faith.
Understanding Identity in the Gospel
A theological exploration unfolds regarding the identity of Jesus and how it intersects with contemporary societal issues. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of recognizing Jesus as not only a figure of faith but also a catalyst for social change. The participants critique traditional views of atonement and encourage a more nuanced understanding of Jesus' message in a world grappling with racism and injustice. This discussion calls for a fresh perspective on the gospel's application in today's context.
Practicing Pentecost amidst Modern Challenges
The notion of practicing Pentecost as a dynamic expression of faith is introduced, emphasizing the importance of a communal, spirit-led approach to ministry. The group examines how speaking in new tongues can symbolize breaking down barriers and fostering deeper understanding within diverse communities. This practice of Pentecost is portrayed as essential for revitalizing faith expressions that are inclusive and transformative. The conversation suggests that engaging with one another in honesty and vulnerability can lead to a more profound realization of the gospel.
This episode was recorded live in Charlotte, North Carolina, at Birdsong Brewing. Anthony Smith and Ben Boswell join on the mic.
Anthony Smith is a minister at Mission House in Salisbury, NC. We became friends in 2006 at the Emergent Village Cohort in Charlotte and ever since I have loved getting a chance to talk and be challenged by Anthony.
Ben Boswell is a friend from undergrad who mistakingly went to Divinity school at Duke. Despite that we are still friends and he is senior minister at Myers Park Baptist Church who were hosting me for the weekend. If you are in Charlotte and looking for a church, make sure to check them out. You can also hear my sermon from the visit here.
Birdsong Brewing company were excellent hosts. Not only were the people and the space stellar, but the beer was legit. I enjoyed the Brown Ale and the Jalapeño Pale Ale was super zesty.
