

51. Mark Drakeford on Labour success, Tory PMs, and Welsh nationalism
Sep 16, 2022
Mark Drakeford, the First Minister of Wales and Leader of Welsh Labour, shares his insights from a long career in Welsh politics. He discusses the historical success of Labour in Wales and the evolving narrative around Welsh nationalism. Mark emphasizes the importance of coalition politics and the push for proportional representation to invigorate governance. He reflects on the impact of Brexit and the distinctive political identity of Wales compared to Scotland and Northern England, while also addressing the influence of personal pursuits amidst the demands of public life.
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Jack Brooks and Free School Meals
- Mark Drakeford recounts a story about Jack Brooks, a dominant figure in Welsh local government.
- A woman recognized Brooks as the "kid who used to have free school meals," shaping his political views.
The Lord of Aberavon
- Drakeford shares an anecdote from Lord Haycock's obituary, highlighting the "boss" style in old Welsh politics.
- Jehovah's Witnesses asked if the "Lord" was in, and Lady Haycock replied, "Yes, but he's watching Aberavon."
Respectful Devolution
- Drakeford contrasts Theresa May's and Boris Johnson's approaches to the UK.
- He suggests that May, despite disagreeing with Drakeford, respected diverse opinions, while Johnson's "muscular unionism" was counterproductive.