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I, scientist with Balazs Kegl

Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Mar 24, 2025
01:34:50

Meet my two wonderful colleagues with whom we wrote a position paper last year "A Call for Embodied AI". We talk about the limits of the current "internet AI" paradigm. We agree that singularity, if even a thing, is very far, LLMs will not lead there, but that social media AI is already an embodied AI that is seamlessly rewiring us.


Paper: https://proceedings.mlr.press/v235/paolo24a.html


Related episodes:


Yogi Jaeger: https://youtu.be/5UJ4y2L2qpk

Anna Riedl: https://youtu.be/w2ZiSWZNQsg

Anna Ciaunica: https://youtu.be/x1QHwhlCn-8

Alexander Ororbia: https://youtu.be/N83vBfz7_BI

Laura Desire di Paolo: https://youtu.be/9txUwVtAOBk


00:00:00 Intro.

00:02:54 Why are we interested in embodied AI? Robotics and philosophy.

00:12:10 The ingredients of embodied AI.

00:15:30 Affordances. Seeing the world as a set of meanings rather than a set of objects. Who is setting the goals?

00:28:29 Karl Friston's Free Energy Principle and Active Inference. Open and closed worlds. The hardware challenge. Filtering and relevance realization. Jaeger's non-computationality argument.

00:39:36 Lecun's JEPA and our criticism: representation is not objective, it is transjective. Babies learn interactively. The importance of love (binding) and self-sacrifice. Levin's TAME. Multi-agent emergence.

00:52:23 AGI. What do we want from AGI to be? Life? Slaves? Asimov's I, Robot, and the impossibility of propositional alignment.

01:01:50 The issue with optimization: timescale. Levin's cognitive cones. The only answer is love.

01:07:44 Social media AI. The Algorithm, feed, companies, advertisement. The subconscious of internet. The danger. How are they embodied? They are spirits. I want access to the Algorithm at an intermediate level.


I, scientist blog: https://balazskegl.substack.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/balazskegl

Artwork: DALL-E

Music: Bea Palya https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBDp3qcFZdU1yoWIRpMSaZw



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