The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast 438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett
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Apr 8, 2024 
In a captivating conversation, Dr. Daniel Dennett, a philosopher and cognitive scientist, tackles the complexities of consciousness, ethics, and the intersection of science and religion. They discuss 'aboutness' and intentionality in shaping moral frameworks, explore how emotions influence ethical decision-making, and critique the evolution from religious to secular morals. Additionally, they highlight the pressing dangers of AI, likening its potential threat to nuclear arms, while emphasizing the need for academic freedom and trust in society.
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Secular Highest Good
- The highest good (summum bonum) isn't always religious.
- Dennett, though atheist, acknowledges a personal hierarchy of values and "deep" ethics.
Affordances and the Brain
- Peterson and Dennett discuss Gibson's affordances.
- They agree, but Dennett notes Gibson didn't detail how the brain tracks affordances.
Emotions as Control System
- Dennett believes emotions control the brain, not a rigid OS.
- Emotions constantly conflict, making life difficult, but also driving self-control.
