RenewalCast The Endtimes: Classic Dispensationalism with guest Randy White
Mar 2, 2023
43:56
In an effort to represent (and not misrepresent) the various views we wanted to talk about in this series we tried to get some of the best representatives from each position.
You can find out more about Randy White HERE!
The following is Generated by AI:
Summary/Abstract
Randy White is a pastor and the founder of Dispensational Publishing House which publishes Bible study materials from a Dispensational perspective. He has been a pastor for over 30 years and does daily Bible teaching at randywhiteministries.org. He lives in the beauty of Tau, New Mexico and pastors a small church which he calls America's greatest tiny church.
On the podcast, Randy is representing the Dispensational perspective in a series on Eschatology, the study of the end times. He believes that we should question the assumptions and make sure we are right according to the Scripture. Distensationalism is a hermeneutic, or method of interpreting scripture, which recognizes that at certain points in progressive revelation, God has given a revelation that is so fundamental that it changes everything from that point forward. Dispensationalists look for these points when “the rules of the game changed”. There is a huge range of opinions and interpretations within Dispensationalism and the number of dispensations can vary, with some citing three or four while others cite seven or nine or ten.
However, it can be simplified to understanding that life in the Garden of Eden was drastically different than life outside the Garden. The conversation discusses the concept of dispensationalism, which is the idea that God deals with people differently depending on the dispensation (or period of time) they are living in. Dispensationalism looks at scripture and determines how much of it is applicable to all people for all time, and how much is specific to certain people living under certain rules of that dispensation.
Examples of different dispensations are the Garden of Eden, the giving of the Law, the dispensation of grace, and the future kingdom dispensation. The conversation also clarifies that the dispensation of grace is the period of time in which Gentiles are given access to God's covenants and hope.
Dispensationalism is a hermeneutic approach to interpreting the Bible that looks at the progression of God's revelation throughout history. It holds to a pre-tribulation, pre-millennial view of the end times in which the Church is raptured before the Tribulation, followed by the second coming of Christ before the millennium. In addition to this eschatology, it also emphasizes a separation between Israel and the Church, believing that the future kingdom of Christ will be physical, fraternal, and established through the nation of Israel. This interpretation of the Bible is closely associated with pre-millennialism because it looks for fundamental moments in Scripture where things change, such as the new revelation of salvation through grace by faith.
Timestamps0:00:14
Interview with Randy White on Classic Dispensationalism and Eschatology
0:02:51
Conversation on Dispensationalism: Exploring the Hermeneutic
0:05:12
Discussion on Dispensationalism
0:08:21
Dispensationalism: A Discussion on Eschatology and Hermeneutics
0:12:12
Discussion of Dispensationalism: Historical Perspectives and Futuristic Bed
0:14:57
Discussion on the History of Dispensationalism
0:19:21
Heading: Dispensationalism: A Discussion of Different Views
0:20:52
Discussion on Unfair Characterizations of Dispensationalism
0:25:29
"Exploring Dispensationalism: A Discussion on End Times Theology"
0:27:52
Topic: Understanding the Timing of the Rapture and the Benefits of Pretrib Pre Millennialism
0:30:00
Discussion on Dispensationalism and Its Impact on Biblical Worldview
0:31:51
Discussion on Old Testament Salvation
0:33:38
Discussion on Dispensationalism and Cooperation in Ministry
0:35:50
"Exploring Different Perspectives on Faith: A Discussion on the Benefits of Reading Different Points of View"
0:38:06
Heading: Understanding Different Eschatological Perspectives in Christianity
0:42:21
Heading: Interview with Andy on Biblical Interpretation and Doctrine
Highlights
And yet when it comes time to serve the community, to celebrate the birth of Jesus or to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus, we hold the same views on it, the person of Christ. Pretty much throughout Protestant and Evangelical and even fundamentalist Christianity, we hold the same ideas of the Trinity, of the person of Christ and largely even of the gift of salvation. There's some different viewpoints on how you receive that gift, but what's involved there?. But I think it's a value to have a local church that has taken a position and works to defend it. And you can fellowship around that position and that can be your identity, but at the same time being able to work with others. And I wish in the Christian community there was a little more openness to saying, I'm going to get together with an all millennialist and we're both going to get down on the wrestling match, on the wrestling match and try to work this out and defend our positions and try to seek to learn these.
Yeah, I think that one does not need to adopt dispensationalism in order to receive the gift of grace that God is offering. And so we have brothers and sisters in Christ who hold all sorts of wrong ideas and we can and do walk with them and enjoy the Christian journey with them and learn together with them on so many things. I actually think that one, and especially those of us who are pastors, we benefit probably more from reading a different point of view than reading our own point of view because we already had that point of view. Let's find something different.
It depends on who you ask. So I'll answer in a way that I would say the majority of my fellow dispensationalists would disagree with most. I think dispensationalists have the flaw of thinking that there has always been one soteriology plan of salvation that has always been by grace through faith, not of works. And it's almost anathema in American Christianity to say anything other than that. But my position is that salvation, as the three of us know it and those in our audience know it, that this salvation is something new that God is offering now to the individual that comes after the death barrel and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
There's just way too much in how do you interpret this? Determines how you're going to interpret this, how you're going to interpret this? So for me, I figured, okay, there is a rapture. And then I looked at the various positions of where are we going to put that rapture? And I came to the conclusion after a long time because I was what is often called a historic pre millennialist or a post tribe pre millennials for many years and came to the conviction that the pretrib is really what works biblically and puts all the passages together in harmony. But it's a harmonizing of Scripture. And again, that's the vast majority of doctrine is a harmonizing of Scripture. And I think that it would do anybody good, even if they're not a dispensationalist and reject dispensationalism altogether.
And if the plain sense makes common sense, seek no other sense as we often say. And then we try to connect the dots. But every theology is connecting dots that aren't just fully connected for us. Unfortunately, the dotted dot in the Bible is not numbered. And that's why there are theological differences and we all ought to recognize that. Whether it's a reform position, a covenant position, a dispensational position, it's based upon some interpretive assumptions.. And if we got any of those assumptions wrong, then the whole thing falls apart. And the older we get, the more we study, the more we look back and say oops, shouldn't have put that. I shouldn't have connected those two things. Now I see that and so I'm going to change my position. And I don't know, maybe it's pride, but for some reason we have a hard time changing our position or backing up on something that especially those of us who are preachers because we stood in front of a crowd of people and stake their life on it.
You can find out more about Randy White HERE!
The following is Generated by AI:
Summary/Abstract
Randy White is a pastor and the founder of Dispensational Publishing House which publishes Bible study materials from a Dispensational perspective. He has been a pastor for over 30 years and does daily Bible teaching at randywhiteministries.org. He lives in the beauty of Tau, New Mexico and pastors a small church which he calls America's greatest tiny church.
On the podcast, Randy is representing the Dispensational perspective in a series on Eschatology, the study of the end times. He believes that we should question the assumptions and make sure we are right according to the Scripture. Distensationalism is a hermeneutic, or method of interpreting scripture, which recognizes that at certain points in progressive revelation, God has given a revelation that is so fundamental that it changes everything from that point forward. Dispensationalists look for these points when “the rules of the game changed”. There is a huge range of opinions and interpretations within Dispensationalism and the number of dispensations can vary, with some citing three or four while others cite seven or nine or ten.
However, it can be simplified to understanding that life in the Garden of Eden was drastically different than life outside the Garden. The conversation discusses the concept of dispensationalism, which is the idea that God deals with people differently depending on the dispensation (or period of time) they are living in. Dispensationalism looks at scripture and determines how much of it is applicable to all people for all time, and how much is specific to certain people living under certain rules of that dispensation.
Examples of different dispensations are the Garden of Eden, the giving of the Law, the dispensation of grace, and the future kingdom dispensation. The conversation also clarifies that the dispensation of grace is the period of time in which Gentiles are given access to God's covenants and hope.
Dispensationalism is a hermeneutic approach to interpreting the Bible that looks at the progression of God's revelation throughout history. It holds to a pre-tribulation, pre-millennial view of the end times in which the Church is raptured before the Tribulation, followed by the second coming of Christ before the millennium. In addition to this eschatology, it also emphasizes a separation between Israel and the Church, believing that the future kingdom of Christ will be physical, fraternal, and established through the nation of Israel. This interpretation of the Bible is closely associated with pre-millennialism because it looks for fundamental moments in Scripture where things change, such as the new revelation of salvation through grace by faith.
Timestamps0:00:14
Interview with Randy White on Classic Dispensationalism and Eschatology
0:02:51
Conversation on Dispensationalism: Exploring the Hermeneutic
0:05:12
Discussion on Dispensationalism
0:08:21
Dispensationalism: A Discussion on Eschatology and Hermeneutics
0:12:12
Discussion of Dispensationalism: Historical Perspectives and Futuristic Bed
0:14:57
Discussion on the History of Dispensationalism
0:19:21
Heading: Dispensationalism: A Discussion of Different Views
0:20:52
Discussion on Unfair Characterizations of Dispensationalism
0:25:29
"Exploring Dispensationalism: A Discussion on End Times Theology"
0:27:52
Topic: Understanding the Timing of the Rapture and the Benefits of Pretrib Pre Millennialism
0:30:00
Discussion on Dispensationalism and Its Impact on Biblical Worldview
0:31:51
Discussion on Old Testament Salvation
0:33:38
Discussion on Dispensationalism and Cooperation in Ministry
0:35:50
"Exploring Different Perspectives on Faith: A Discussion on the Benefits of Reading Different Points of View"
0:38:06
Heading: Understanding Different Eschatological Perspectives in Christianity
0:42:21
Heading: Interview with Andy on Biblical Interpretation and Doctrine
Highlights
And yet when it comes time to serve the community, to celebrate the birth of Jesus or to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus, we hold the same views on it, the person of Christ. Pretty much throughout Protestant and Evangelical and even fundamentalist Christianity, we hold the same ideas of the Trinity, of the person of Christ and largely even of the gift of salvation. There's some different viewpoints on how you receive that gift, but what's involved there?. But I think it's a value to have a local church that has taken a position and works to defend it. And you can fellowship around that position and that can be your identity, but at the same time being able to work with others. And I wish in the Christian community there was a little more openness to saying, I'm going to get together with an all millennialist and we're both going to get down on the wrestling match, on the wrestling match and try to work this out and defend our positions and try to seek to learn these.
Yeah, I think that one does not need to adopt dispensationalism in order to receive the gift of grace that God is offering. And so we have brothers and sisters in Christ who hold all sorts of wrong ideas and we can and do walk with them and enjoy the Christian journey with them and learn together with them on so many things. I actually think that one, and especially those of us who are pastors, we benefit probably more from reading a different point of view than reading our own point of view because we already had that point of view. Let's find something different.
It depends on who you ask. So I'll answer in a way that I would say the majority of my fellow dispensationalists would disagree with most. I think dispensationalists have the flaw of thinking that there has always been one soteriology plan of salvation that has always been by grace through faith, not of works. And it's almost anathema in American Christianity to say anything other than that. But my position is that salvation, as the three of us know it and those in our audience know it, that this salvation is something new that God is offering now to the individual that comes after the death barrel and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
There's just way too much in how do you interpret this? Determines how you're going to interpret this, how you're going to interpret this? So for me, I figured, okay, there is a rapture. And then I looked at the various positions of where are we going to put that rapture? And I came to the conclusion after a long time because I was what is often called a historic pre millennialist or a post tribe pre millennials for many years and came to the conviction that the pretrib is really what works biblically and puts all the passages together in harmony. But it's a harmonizing of Scripture. And again, that's the vast majority of doctrine is a harmonizing of Scripture. And I think that it would do anybody good, even if they're not a dispensationalist and reject dispensationalism altogether.
And if the plain sense makes common sense, seek no other sense as we often say. And then we try to connect the dots. But every theology is connecting dots that aren't just fully connected for us. Unfortunately, the dotted dot in the Bible is not numbered. And that's why there are theological differences and we all ought to recognize that. Whether it's a reform position, a covenant position, a dispensational position, it's based upon some interpretive assumptions.. And if we got any of those assumptions wrong, then the whole thing falls apart. And the older we get, the more we study, the more we look back and say oops, shouldn't have put that. I shouldn't have connected those two things. Now I see that and so I'm going to change my position. And I don't know, maybe it's pride, but for some reason we have a hard time changing our position or backing up on something that especially those of us who are preachers because we stood in front of a crowd of people and stake their life on it.