15. Who Needs College Anymore? A Conversation with Kathleen deLaski

In this conversation with EdUp Provost host Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner, Kathleen deLaski discusses her provocative book, Who Needs College Anymore?, which challenges the traditional view of college degrees as the primary pathway to success. She explores the societal implications of this view, the stress it places on students, and the need for alternative pathways such as apprenticeships and industry certifications. DeLaski advocates for a redefinition of the role of universities to include credentialing skills beyond traditional degrees, emphasizing the importance of micro pathways and flexible learning options to meet the needs of diverse learners. In this conversation, Thuswaldner and deLaski discuss the evolving landscape of higher education, emphasizing the importance of access, lifelong learning, and the integration of microcredentials. They explore the need for colleges to adapt to changing societal demands, the significance of employer engagement in providing students with relevant experiences, and the enduring value of liberal arts education. The discussion also touches on the impact of AI on learning and hiring processes, highlighting the necessity for educational institutions to innovate and remain relevant in a rapidly changing world. Takeaways • Alternative pathways like apprenticeships are gaining traction. • Colleges should redefine their role in credentialing skills. • Microcredentials can provide valuable skills recognition. • The traditional college experience may not suit everyone. • Flexible learning options are essential for modern education.