This week, Vanessa and Casper explore the theme of Kindness in Chapter 28 of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix! They discuss James and Snape and Lily, oh my! Throughout the episode we consider the question: where can we attempt to employ more kindness?

Thank you to Shruti for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 29, Careers Advice, through the theme of Community with Matt Potts and Delphene Mooney from On the Rise.

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Kindness: Snape’s Worst Memory (Book 5, Chapter 28)