Why No Ancient Greek Industrial Revolution? A Conversation with George Tridimas
Aug 3, 2018
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George Tridimas, an expert in economics and history, discusses why Ancient Greece didn't experience an industrial revolution. Factors include cultural barriers, energy limitations for steel production, and the absence of profit-driven economies. The podcast explores the impact of political contests, warfare, and the high labor to capital ratio in hindering economic development in ancient Greece.
Ancient Greece's lack of energy sources like coal hindered industrial revolution, creating reliance on slave labor instead of technological progress.
Institutions in ancient Greece, with direct citizen voting and illiberal attitudes towards wealth, discouraged economic growth and technological advancements.
Deep dives
Factors hindering industrial revolution in ancient Greece
Ancient Greece, despite its prosperous civilization in the 4th century BCE, did not experience an Industrial Revolution similar to England and the low countries. Several key factors contributed to this, including the lack of rational economic attitudes, reliance on animate energy sources like wind and water, the absence of strong metallurgical capabilities leading to reliance on slaves instead of technological advancements, illiberal civic attitudes where citizenship was not an inherent right but a legal construct, and constant warfare that hindered capital accumulation and technological progress.
Institutional barriers to economic growth
The discussion highlighted the role of institutions in ancient Greece, particularly the unique democratic structure where citizens directly voted on policies instead of representatives, showing a shift from modern representative democracies. The absence of liberal attitudes towards self-sufficiency and wealth accumulation, coupled with the perpetual state of war and high labor-to-capital ratio, hindered economic progress and discouraged technological advancements essential for industrial growth.
Energy constraints in ancient Greece
Ancient Greece's energy constraints, such as the reliance on animate energy sources like wind and water, scarcity of coal for high heat production needed for steel, and impractical inventions like the steam engine without adequate metallurgy, limited industrial advancements. The inability to store energy efficiently and reliance on costly transportation methods due to geographical limitations compounded the energy challenges, inhibiting industrial revolution.
Cultural influences on economic development
Cultural norms in ancient Greece, characterized by the emphasis on self-sufficiency, suboptimal attitudes towards capital accumulation and profit-making, and the lack of modern liberalism and individual rights, posed barriers to economic growth and technological innovation necessary for industrial revolution. The cultural inclination towards self-sufficiency and labor-driven economy, while engaging in perpetual warfare and inadequate metallurgical advancements, deterred Greece from achieving sustained economic growth and industrial modernization.
Here on Economics Detective Radio, we've had many discussions about the early modern period, and the circumstances that gave rise to the modern levels of sustained economic growth that were heretofore unheard of in human history. One important question is, what was it about England and the Low Countries in the early modern period that made them the first to transition to modern-style economies? A related, and equally important question is why other times and places throughout history failed to produce an industrial revolution.
My guest today, George Tridimas, has done interesting work exploring the question of why the Greek golden age of 500-300 BCE didn't produce sustained economic growth. He gives a number of explanations, ranging from cultural and political factors to Greece's acute lack of the energy sources necessary to produce enough heat to smelt steel.
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