
The Hurdle Rate Podcast Episode 37 - Meet Them Where They're At
Nov 25, 2025
The hosts dive into market volatility and the implications of MSCI's exclusion of Bitcoin. They analyze recent trading activities, focusing on the October 10 market moves. The discussion shifts to how MSCI consultations can impact investment strategies and the classification of Bitcoin-related companies. They highlight the irony of regulatory progress amid criticisms of Bitcoin's financial benefits. Lastly, the hosts connect personal finance challenges with family formation trends, emphasizing the need for tailored Bitcoin education for those in financial distress.
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Structured Finance Is Predictable
- Structured finance explains preferred equity behaving with dampened but real volatility during drawdowns.
- The hosts emphasize that these instruments are math-driven, not magic, and held up in the recent pullback.
Waiting Is A Valid Corporate Strategy
- If you hold Bitcoin on a balance sheet, one valid option is to do nothing during volatility and wait it out.
- Model drawdowns as normal for high-volatility assets and prepare to weather them rather than panic-sell.
Index Consultations Can Move Markets
- MSCI's consultation to exclude firms with >50% digital assets likely prompted front-running and selling in October.
- Index provider actions can act as catalysts because passive holders and active managers anticipate forced flows.
