Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari NLS 556: Jesus' BANNED Teachings FOUND in LOST TEXTS! Gospels of THOMAS/DEAD SEA Scrolls with Neil Douglas Klotz
Feb 18, 2025
Neil Douglas Klotz, a scholar and mystic focused on the Aramaic roots of Jesus' teachings, shares insights into a radically different understanding of Jesus. He discusses how translations have obscured the original messages, revealing that Jesus invited participation rather than blind belief. Klotz explains the importance of terms like 'breath' over 'spirit,' reflecting a deeper connection to existence. The conversation also touches on lost texts, the hidden years of Jesus, and the transformative power of returning to authentic teachings.
01:24:57
Early Jesus Visions and Contrasting Upbringing
- Neil Douglas-Klotz had childhood visions of Jesus.
- His alternative family nurtured this, while his formal schooling instilled conservative theology he later rejected.
Decisions and Facts
- People rarely make major life decisions based on complete facts.
- This realization led Neil Douglas-Klotz to explore meditation and Sufism.
Aramaic and Spiritual Experiences
- A Sufi teacher's desire to pray the Lord's Prayer in Aramaic sparked Neil Douglas-Klotz's research.
- Chanting in Aramaic led to profound spiritual experiences, shaping his path.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Unveiling the Aramaic Teachings of Jesus
01:33 • 3min
A Scholar's Spiritual Quest
04:34 • 8min
Exploring Sufism: Spirituality Beyond Religion
12:07 • 2min
Jesus Through Diverse Lenses
14:29 • 5min
The Hidden History of Aramaic Christianity and the Influence of Empire
19:44 • 6min
From Oral Traditions to Translations
25:18 • 7min
Misunderstanding Hell: Ancient Perspectives and Theological Evolution
32:01 • 5min
The Historical Context of Jesus' Teachings
37:01 • 8min
Exploring Jesus' Teachings and Generational Wealth
44:31 • 4min
Contrasting Narratives of Jesus: An Exploration
48:13 • 9min
Navigating Financial Freedom Through Smarter Choices
57:29 • 2min
Unveiling the Missing Years of Jesus
59:11 • 10min
Exploring the Ethiopian Bible and the Book of Enoch
01:09:06 • 3min
Exploring the Origins: Buddha and Jesus
01:12:36 • 8min
Rediscovering Jesus' Teachings Through Lost Texts
01:20:43 • 2min
A Journey Beyond Dogma
01:22:44 • 9min
Reincarnation and the Teachings of Jesus
01:31:59 • 8min
Prayers of the Cosmos
Prayers of the Cosmos
Matthew Fox
The Gnostic Gospels
Elaine Pagels
In 'The Gnostic Gospels', Elaine Pagels delves into the mysteries and meanings of the Gnostic texts discovered at Nag Hammadi in 1945. These texts, including the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, present a diverse and often conflicting view of Jesus and early Christianity compared to the New Testament. Pagels examines how these gnostic texts challenged the orthodox Christian church, questioning the literal interpretation of Christ's resurrection, the gender of God, and the role of clergy. She highlights the individualistic and democratic nature of Gnosticism, which emphasized self-knowledge and spiritual search over hierarchical church doctrine. The book provides a comprehensive introduction to the gnostic movement and its significance in the history of Christianity[1][3][4].
book of Enoch
Fr. Stephen DeYoung
Gospel of Philip
Gospel of Philip
Robert McLachlan Wilson
The Gospel of Judas
Simon Mawer
The Gospel of Judas is a Gnostic text discovered in the 20th century that offers a different perspective on the relationship between Judas Iscariot and Jesus. Unlike the canonical Gospels, this text portrays Judas as acting at Jesus's behest, suggesting a more complex and nuanced interpretation of Judas's role in the events surrounding Jesus's crucifixion. The Gospel of Judas has been the subject of much scholarly debate and interpretation, with some scholars arguing that it provides valuable insights into early Christian beliefs and practices. The text's discovery has also sparked discussions about the nature of Gnosticism and its relationship to early Christianity. The Gospel of Judas remains a controversial and fascinating text that continues to challenge traditional interpretations of the New Testament.
The Divine Comedy
Dante Alighieri
The Divine Comedy is an Italian narrative poem begun around 1308 and completed around 1321. It is divided into three parts: Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso. The poem discusses the state of the soul after death and presents an image of divine justice, describing Dante's travels through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven. It is an allegory representing the soul's journey towards God, drawing on medieval Catholic theology and philosophy, especially Thomistic philosophy. The work is considered one of the greatest in Italian literature and Western literature, and it helped establish the Tuscan language as the standardized Italian language.
Gospel of Thomas
Richard Valantasis
The Gospel of Thomas is a non-canonical gospel, meaning it's not included in the Bible. It's a collection of sayings attributed to Jesus, differing significantly in style and content from the canonical gospels. It's considered Gnostic in origin, emphasizing secret knowledge and spiritual enlightenment. Scholars debate its historical accuracy and relationship to the canonical gospels. Its unique perspective offers insights into early Christian thought and diversity. The Gospel of Thomas's focus on spiritual understanding rather than historical narrative sets it apart from the canonical texts.
Aramaic Jesus
Aramaic Jesus
Jim Stacey
Gospel of Mary Magdalene
Gospel of Mary Magdalene
Cecil Neal
Answer to Job
Carl Gustav Jung
Carl Jung's "Answer to Job" reinterprets the biblical Book of Job through the lens of analytical psychology. Jung challenges the traditional Christian interpretation, suggesting that God's suffering is not a mysterious plan but a consequence of God's own unconsciousness. The book explores the concept of God's 'shadow self' and the importance of confronting inner darkness for spiritual growth. Jung's analysis delves into the dynamics between the conscious and unconscious, highlighting the need for self-reflection and integration. Ultimately, "Answer to Job" offers a profound exploration of faith, suffering, and the human condition.
There’s something profoundly liberating about peeling back the layers of history and finding the raw, untamed wisdom beneath. On today’s episode, we welcome Neil Douglas Klotz, a scholar and mystic whose journey into the Aramaic roots of Jesus’s teachings unveils a radically different understanding of the man, his message, and the world he lived in.The Jesus many of us have encountered is a product of centuries of translation, political maneuvering, and cultural adaptation. The blue-eyed, English-speaking figure who stands at the center of Western Christianity is a far cry from the Aramaic-speaking mystic who roamed the hills of ancient Palestine. Neil Douglas Klotz takes us back to the beginning, to the words that Jesus actually spoke, words that vibrate with an entirely different rhythm than those found in the King James Bible. “If you read ‘spirit’ in the New Testament,” he says, “just put ‘breath’ over that word, because that’s what the Aramaic also means.”It is in this forgotten wisdom that we find a Jesus who wasn’t simply demanding belief but rather inviting participation.
One of the most profound mistranslations, according to Klotz, is the oft-quoted phrase “believe in me.” In Aramaic, the more accurate translation is “believe like me.” This shifts the message entirely—Jesus wasn’t asking for blind devotion but instead urging people to embody faith in the way he did, to step into the divine flow as he had.The Aramaic worldview, Klotz explains, did not divide existence into rigid dualities. There was no separation between body and soul, breath and spirit, heaven and earth. The kingdom of heaven, Jesus said, is not some far-off celestial domain but something “within and among” us. The words for “within” and “among” are the same in Aramaic—suggesting that the divine is not a place to go but a way to be, something alive in the interconnected web of existence.And what of hell? Another grand misunderstanding, says Klotz. Jesus never spoke of a fiery pit of eternal torment but rather referred to Gehenna, a literal burning trash heap outside of Jerusalem. The idea of an eternal damnation was a much later addition, a political tool used to control through fear. The Jesus of Aramaic tradition wasn’t threatening souls with punishment—he was urging people to purify their burdens, to release what weighs them down, to transform their suffering rather than be consumed by it.Even the crucifixion, Klotz suggests, is layered in mystery and translation errors. The idea of Jesus returning, he argues, is not about a second coming in the clouds but rather about a recognition of Christ’s presence in one another. “We will see Jesus in each other and in nature,” he says. “That’s the Second Coming.” Perhaps the greatest tragedy of organized religion has been its insistence on externalizing the divine, when all along Jesus was saying: It’s here, now, inside you.
SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS
Please enjoy my conversation with Neil Douglas Klotz.
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One of the most profound mistranslations, according to Klotz, is the oft-quoted phrase “believe in me.” In Aramaic, the more accurate translation is “believe like me.” This shifts the message entirely—Jesus wasn’t asking for blind devotion but instead urging people to embody faith in the way he did, to step into the divine flow as he had.The Aramaic worldview, Klotz explains, did not divide existence into rigid dualities. There was no separation between body and soul, breath and spirit, heaven and earth. The kingdom of heaven, Jesus said, is not some far-off celestial domain but something “within and among” us. The words for “within” and “among” are the same in Aramaic—suggesting that the divine is not a place to go but a way to be, something alive in the interconnected web of existence.And what of hell? Another grand misunderstanding, says Klotz. Jesus never spoke of a fiery pit of eternal torment but rather referred to Gehenna, a literal burning trash heap outside of Jerusalem. The idea of an eternal damnation was a much later addition, a political tool used to control through fear. The Jesus of Aramaic tradition wasn’t threatening souls with punishment—he was urging people to purify their burdens, to release what weighs them down, to transform their suffering rather than be consumed by it.Even the crucifixion, Klotz suggests, is layered in mystery and translation errors. The idea of Jesus returning, he argues, is not about a second coming in the clouds but rather about a recognition of Christ’s presence in one another. “We will see Jesus in each other and in nature,” he says. “That’s the Second Coming.” Perhaps the greatest tragedy of organized religion has been its insistence on externalizing the divine, when all along Jesus was saying: It’s here, now, inside you.
SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS
- Breath is Spirit – In Aramaic, the word for spirit and breath are the same. Every inhale and exhale connects us to something greater, a reminder that we are not separate from the divine but are continuously part of its unfolding.
- Faith is Participation, Not Belief – Jesus didn’t ask people to believe in him; he asked them to embody faith as he did. It’s about stepping into a way of being rather than subscribing to a doctrine.
- Heaven is Within and Among Us – The kingdom of heaven is not a distant place but a lived experience, something we create through our relationships, actions, and awareness.
Please enjoy my conversation with Neil Douglas Klotz.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/next-level-soul-podcast-with-alex-ferrari--4858435/support.