Seminarian James Gramzow, summer vicar with Higher Things, joins Andy and Sarah from the Higher Things conference in Carbondale, IL, to talk about what a summer vicar does with Higher Things, how have hymns been a part of his faith formation and daily vocation, how hymns teach the faith, and some insights he shared with youth and adults in his breakaway session "Hymnody: The Sung Apologetic." Learn more about Higher Things at higherthings.org.
