
SNAFU with Ed Helms Introducing Here We Go Again with Kal Penn
Oct 24, 2025
Kal Penn chats with Bill Nye, the iconic science educator and TV presenter, delving into the intrigues of the space race. They explore how historical tensions influenced the original competition, discuss the importance of the Voyager Golden Record, and analyze the shift to modern dynamics involving private billionaires and international players. Bill Nye highlights the dangers of orbital debris and the motivations behind space exploration, advocating for Earth's stewardship over interplanetary colonization. It's a fascinating look at how space continues to reflect humanity's aspirations.
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Golden Record Classroom Story
- Bill Nye recalls being in Carl Sagan's class and influencing the Voyager Golden Record's music selection.
- He claims personal credit for getting Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode" on the record and describes the record's purpose.
Cold War Drove Science And Perspective
- The original space race was driven by Cold War competition but produced huge scientific advances and cultural shifts.
- Iconic moments like Earthrise reshaped humanity's view of Earth and spurred international cooperation and discovery.
Handshake That Changed Space Relations
- The handshake in space between Leonov and Stafford symbolized turning rivalry into cooperation.
- That gesture paved the way for the International Space Station and long-term international training and teamwork.


