Members Only #184 - Zoom Rebroadcast - On the Pogrom in Israel
Oct 10, 2023
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In this episode, the hosts are joined by E to discuss the unfolding horror in Israel. They talk about living near the border, rocket attacks, and the disturbing videos circulating on social media. They also draw comparisons to the Holocaust, critique the portrayal of Hamas, and discuss the root causes of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
The eradication of Hamas's senior leadership is seen by some as the root cause of the pogrom.
The scale and brutality of the violence in Israel and Palestine is compared to war crimes, emphasizing the need to witness and understand the extent of the atrocities.
Deep dives
Root causes of the conflict
The podcast discusses the root causes of the current conflict between Israel and Palestine. There is a disagreement on whether root causes should be considered in the immediate context of the violence. However, it is emphasized that the eradication of Hamas's senior leadership is seen by some as the root cause of the pogrom.
The horrors of the conflict
The podcast highlights the horrifying nature of the ongoing violence in Israel and Palestine. Examples are given, such as the indiscriminate targeting and killing of civilians, the use of rockets, and the door-to-door hunting down of individuals. The scale and brutality of the violence is compared to war crimes, and the need to witness and understand the extent of the atrocities is underscored.
Controversial reactions and perspectives
Controversial reactions and perspectives surrounding the conflict are discussed. Criticism is directed towards those who invoke "root causes" to justify or downplay the violence, especially when it involves targeting individuals based on their ethnicity or religion. Some remarks made in support of Palestine by certain political groups are criticized, while others argue for more targeted actions against Hamas as a greater threat.
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com
(Editor’s note: about 20 seconds of Comrade Lake’s mic is missing at the very beginning of this recording. It fixes itself soon thereafter. Sorry about that)
It’s that time of month (…ummmm….time for a rebroadcast of our Second Sunday Zoom call). As you probably already guessed, we managed just one topic of conversation this time around: the unfolding ho…
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