The Devil You Know with Sarah Marshall

Episode 4: Bad Times, Good TV

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Nov 10, 2025
Whitney Phillips, an assistant professor at the University of Oregon and co-author of The Shadow Gospel, delves into the dark world of the Satanic Panic. She explores how 90s TV shows, like The X-Files, shaped societal fears. The conversation covers the historical roots of satanic imagery, sensational media narratives, and how cultural phenomena like The Exorcist fueled public anxiety. They also discuss the role of evangelical media and the evolution of demonology in today’s politics, revealing a continuous cycle of fear and sensationalism.
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INSIGHT

Fiction Shaped Real Panic

  • Fictional media like The X-Files recycled satanic tropes that made the panic feel plausible to kids and adults alike.
  • Those tropes fed back into real-world fears, seeding moral panic across culture and news media.
ANECDOTE

X-Files Sparked Scholarly Interest

  • Whitney Phillips describes The X-Files episode 'Die Hand, Die Verletzt' as formative for her interest in media and panic narratives.
  • She recalls absorbing its imagery as a child which later connected to her academic work on media and demonology.
INSIGHT

The Devil Became Personal

  • Late-60s and 70s films recast Satan as intimate and recruitable, moving fear from far-off hell to nearby people.
  • That shift made narratives about neighbors and families being corrupted especially potent.
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