Trump’s U-turn on the Epstein files: Does this help the Maga camp or make things worse?

Patricia Cohen, a global economics correspondent for The New York Times, and Alexander Gerlach, a political philosophy professor at NYU, dive into Trump's surprising U-turn on releasing Epstein files. They discuss the motivations behind Trump's decision, its implications for the MAGA camp, and skepticism about potential redactions. The duo also analyzes the fractures within MAGA and the endurance of Trump's political persona amid scandals. Their conversation touches on the broader themes of accountability and public perception in the current political landscape.