The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast 418. Hedonism, Taboos, Society, and Deprivation | Ben Shapiro
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Jan 29, 2024 
Ben Shapiro, a best-selling author and co-founder of The Daily Wire, dives into the complexities of hedonism and its impact on society. He discusses the decline of shared ideals and the necessity of deprivation for societal cohesion. The conversation also touches on the balance between personal desires and communal moral narratives, emphasizing the importance of tradition in shaping values. Shapiro critiques modern ideologies, advocating for a return to fundamental values and meaningful community engagement to address societal fragmentation.
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Story-Based Understanding
- People understand the world through stories, which prioritize information based on values.
- This challenges the Enlightenment idea that empiricism and rationality alone are sufficient.
Stories as Values Framework
- Stories embed values and provide a framework for interpreting data.
- Listening to a story is an act of faith, accepting the storyteller's values.
Empirical Validation of Symbols
- Large language models demonstrate that narrative interpretations aren't arbitrary.
- They map statistical relationships between words, validating the concept of symbols and archetypes.
